Is Beverly Oliver the Babushka Lady Taking Pictures of the JFK Assassination?

Created on August 18, 2015

Beverly Oliver is a Dallas resident, ex-stripper and close friend of Jack Ruby who was the killer of Lee Harvey Oswald. Her character is in Oliver Stone’s JFK movie, and she wrote a book entitled “Nightmare in Dallas”.

She claims she was a witness of the JFK assassination, more precisely the Babushka Lady seen in the Zapruder film holding a movie-picture camera, and apparently taking pictures. The identity of this mysterious witness is still unknown to this date, and the film she may have taken has never been seen by the public.

I’ve been researching the JFK assassination since 1991, and the identity of the Babushka Lady has always intrigued me. In the last few months, I’ve come across photo evidence that Oliver is not the Babushka Lady. Ms. Oliver has refused so far to respond to most of the points raised in the video below.

These photos proves beyond the shadow of the doubt that the Babushka Lady did not have a movie-picture camera. The image on the right is an Allen photo showing a box-style camera taking still pictures that is similar to the Sears Tower model shown on the left. Both cameras as extremely different from a Yashica movie-picture camera.

All cameras

Gary Mack told me about a woman who might have been the Babushka Lady.



As you requested, here’s some more of the story behind Jack Harrison, a retired Kodak executive who apparently talked to the real Babushka Lady. Harrison visited The Sixth Floor Museum several years ago and casually mentioned to one of the security people that he was working at Kodak when the Zapruder film was processed. He was among the large group of Kodak employees who watched it that afternoon and evening (there were two viewing sessions).

Security immediately phoned me, so Bob Porter and I convinced Jack to do an oral history. It was a hot day and he was dressed like a regular tourist, for this was his first visit back to Dallas in some 15 years. Excerpts of the interview appear in the MPI video “Image Of An Assassination.”

He remembered Zapruder and a man who shot many slides – presumably Phil Willis – and a brunette in her mid- to late-30’s. He spoke with her briefly, though she was very shaken by what had happened only a few feet in front of her.

From his description of the blurred image, she had to have been the BL, for there were no other cameras in that area not accounted for. He could see a very small stretch of grass and some people in the foreground. The limo was a few feet farther away. Directly beyond the car was part of the TSBD. There is no doubt in my mind that the view he described matched the location of the Babushka Lady in the Zapruder film.

As I related to the ARRB, the picture was too blurry to be of any use, and the agents who were there were very unhappy about that. As far as Jack knew, no one got or kept the woman’s name. I included Jack’s story in my Dallas Morning News review of Beverly Oliver’s book. Feel free to excerpt that part, if you’d like.

Jack Harrison’s experience tells me what probably happened to the real Babushka Lady, for I have yet to find independent evidence of someone else being that woman.

Partial confirmation of his story can be found in the Z film. Someone has blown up the frames in which the Babushka Lady appears. Close inspection shows that as JFK passes in front of the woman, her right hand moved upward to the camera. To me, that confirms the use of a still camera, not a movie camera. With the latter, one would have had both hands on it the whole time. That revealing movement shows that she raised her right hand, probably to snap the shutter after having wound the film for a second exposure.

Several years ago I diagramed what would have been visible from her location. Between the back of Charles Brehm’s head, two motorcycle officers, helmets and motorcycle windshields, Jackie and then Jean Hill, her view of JFK would have been blocked most of the time. Perhaps she never took that second picture!

Gary Mack


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My other blogs

Witnesses and Suspects in Dealey Plaza

The Activities of Dallas TV and Radio People on the Weekend of the Assassination

Denver Post. November 22, 23, 24 and 25 Editions

Cameramen and Photographers Along the Motorcade Route

The Missing Craven Film Taken in Dealey Plaza

The Parkland Hospital Transcripts

DCA Film

Map of Photographers and Cameramen in Dealey Plaza During the Shooting

Locating Media People (Other than Photographers and Cameramen) in Dealey Plaza

Locating Professional Cameramen and Photographers in Dealey Plaza

Locating Amateur Cameramen and Photographers in Dealey Plaza

Bad Luck with Cameras in Dealey Plaza and Photographers not Taking Pictures at the Right Time

Where are the Original of these Films Taken in Dealey Plaza?

Lost, Missing, Over-Exposed, Unavailable Photos and Films and Dubious Claims

Unidentified Photographers and Cameramen in Dealey Plaza

The Mary Moorman Photos

6th Floor: Photos and films taken inside

The Oswald Films: An Outline

Roger Craig, Deputy Sheriff

Known Amateur Cameramen and Photographers in Dealey Plaza




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2 Comments (+add yours?)

  1. Robin
    Aug 20, 2015 @ 11:49:12

    Thanks for the Gary Mack information Denis

    Liked by 1 person


  2. cccharles1
    Jan 23, 2018 @ 13:13:30

    Excellent analysis!



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