Saturday, August 15, 2015
Last updated on May 22, 2016. See “9. Man in Altgens 5” and “11. The Sandborn Sisters?”
1. In the Alyea/WFAA film in front of the Depository (I previously mislabeled it as Cooper film)
2. Depository employees put in a car
Photographer on the extreme left in the next 2 images. Could it be Jim Darnell of WBAP?
The photographer above can also be seen during the arrest of Larry Florer
Several photographers taking photos/films
3. Filmed the arrest of Larry Florer
Could be the same as in 8. Or this could be A.J. L’Hoste who was also filming that scene.
4. Looks amateur in Dealey Plaza (Unknown time)
5. Reporter interviewing Charles Brehm
6. Probably the same reporter as above.
7. Man in Altgens 5. Appears to have a camera in his left hand. A man seen in this Cooper film frame shows a man who looks like him.
8. Woman #1 in the Dorman film
9. The Sandborn Sisters? Woman in the Dorman film (The lady in blue). Could she be one of the two sisters mentioned below? Thanks to Linda Zambanini for this identification attempt.
The lady below is most likely Elinor Sandborn Pape.
And this is likely Elinor’s sister, Susanne Sanborn Boggard.
10. Woman in Altgens 6
Looking in the direction of Lyndon Johnson. She is actually Anne Donaldson who is a well-known witness. As far as I know, she never mentioned any camera that she may have had.
The Zapruder image collage above, with the numbering of witnesses, is not mine. It was probably made by a member of the JFK Assassination Forum.
11. Woman in Wiegman, Betzner and Bell
12. Teenager in the Cooper film and a Beers photo
Not wearing the same clothes. Maybe he took off his sweater between each image? The glasses and the hairstyle look similar.
13. Parkland (WFAA)
Could it be the same boy as in the Cooper? See 8 just above.
Patrolman Stavis Ellis reported a kid taking pictures all the way from Love Field to Parkland. He added that an SS agent at Parkland took away his film, exposed it to light, and kicked it off.
14. Man in yellow in a Skaggs photo
Some see a man taking pictures.
15. Woman in Betzner and Willis
16. The Babushka Lady
Here seen in an Allen photo. Her identity is still unknown. She was using a box-style camera that took still pictures similar to the Sears Tower on the right.
Gary Mack told me about a woman who might have been the Babushka Lady:
As you requested, here’s some more of the story behind Jack Harrison, a retired Kodak executive who apparently talked to the real Babushka Lady. Harrison visited The Sixth Floor Museum several years ago and casually mentioned to one of the security people that he was working at Kodak when the Zapruder film was processed. He was among the large group of Kodak employees who watched it that afternoon and evening (there were two viewing sessions).
Security immediately phoned me, so Bob Porter and I convinced Jack to do an oral history. It was a hot day and he was dressed like a regular tourist, for this was his first visit back to Dallas in some 15 years. Excerpts of the interview appear in the MPI video “Image Of An Assassination.”
He remembered Zapruder and a man who shot many slides – presumably Phil Willis – and a brunette in her mid- to late-30’s. He spoke with her briefly, though she was very shaken by what had happened only a few feet in front of her.
From his description of the blurred image, she had to have been the BL, for there were no other cameras in that area not accounted for. He could see a very small stretch of grass and some people in the foreground. The limo was a few feet farther away. Directly beyond the car was part of the TSBD. There is no doubt in my mind that the view he described matched the location of the Babushka Lady in the Zapruder film.
As I related to the ARRB, the picture was too blurry to be of any use, and the agents who were there were very unhappy about that. As far as Jack knew, no one got or kept the woman’s name. I included Jack’s story in my Dallas Morning News review of Beverly Oliver’s book. Feel free to excerpt that part, if you’d like.
Jack Harrison’s experience tells me what probably happened to the real Babushka Lady, for I have yet to find independent evidence of someone else being that woman.
Partial confirmation of his story can be found in the Z film. Someone has blown up the frames in which the Babushka Lady appears. Close inspection shows that as JFK passes in front of the woman, her right hand moved upward to the camera. To me, that confirms the use of a still camera, not a movie camera. With the latter, one would have had both hands on it the whole time. That revealing movement shows that she raised her right hand, probably to snap the shutter after having wound the film for a second exposure.
Several years ago I diagramed what would have been visible from her location. Between the back of Charles Brehm’s head, two motorcycle officers, helmets and motorcycle windshields, Jackie and then Jean Hill, her view of JFK would have been blocked most of the time. Perhaps she never took that second picture!
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